As a student I had been part of an evaluation commission for a professorship. It had been made clear, before even looking for candidates, that at the end their first placed recommendation must be a women.
prettyfuckingimmoralCondensed matter physics • 1d
This has happened where I am too. Some manager gets a KPI for closing the gender gap and all of a sudden no male applicants are approved and we have to re-interview. This is not the right way to go about it.
CatBoudreaux504 • 1d
Finally someone talks about it. I know females that got into grad programs with less than a 3.0 gpa in undergrad! We need more women but not at the cost of quality professors and research. PS- I am a female so don’t kill me in the comments. When a female is unqualified for the workload it makes all of us look bad.
thelawenforcer • 1d
isn't it more or less what this italian guy is talking about?
CatBoudreaux504 • 1d
Yes. I meant the Italian Physicist. But..... we all should talk about it. We are dumbing ourselves down to become socially accepted. There has only been one female Field’s medal winner. There are many women in the fields of math/physics who have the academic integrity to be there but there are twice as many who don’t. Just go onto the math GRE or physics GRE websites where people state what grades they have, test scores and if they are domestic or foreign, male or female, and race. So a DWM gets an 800 with a 3.98 and gets declined to most to programs. Then look at a DWF with a 450 and a 2.85 gpa and she gets into Rutgers, UCSD, and Michigan? Yo... no mystery as to why people are mad and rightfully so. And because of this a female’s research might get overlooked because she could have been a prop for the university. I could go on. This researcher had enough. Now had he talked about Biology I would have been outraged. Like I said, I am a female, so don’t kill me. Science is not an area for political correctness.
thelawenforcer • 1d
ah i see. tbh, its understandable why no one is willing to talk about it looking at what happens to people that try to engage with the issue ( although this italian guy is clearly a bit unhinged imo ).
" Now had he talked about Biology I would have been outraged "
what do you mean by this?
CatBoudreaux504 • 1d
Last I checked, there are more women than men in the fields of biological science and social and behavioural science so I doubt there is any push for females to be given priority over males.
Bbrhuft • 1d
There's also a lack of male trainee schoolteachers. I give talks about growing up as a pupil on the autism spectrum to trainee teachers at a nearby teachers college one or twice a year, there's usually 30 to 40 in the audience, and only one or two are men (97% female). Currently, 87% of primary school teachers are female and 71% of secondary school teachers are female. And just over 50% of school principles are female, illustrating that the gender disparity occurred in the last 20-30 years.
dr_lm • 1d
I doubt there is any push for females to be given priority over males
There still is in psychology and neuroscience. I've had an email sent to all scientific staff, inviting only the women to lunch where they can network, and:
discover the commonalities in each others’ lives so that any improvements we make in the School of Sciences can help your life and advance your career
My research centre is >90% female.
• CaptainKirkAndCo • 1d
Downvoted for stating pertinent facts. Stay classy /r/Physics
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Sometimes if I get downvotes I feel like I have said something right.
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Shammythefox • 12h
Work in Neuroscience, also hold physics degree. Can confirm that female bias is very present and is only made stronger by the dearth of men in the field.
circumcise_a_dog • 1d
ah i see. tbh, its understandable why no one is willing to talk about it looking at what happens to people that try to engage with the issue
It reminds me of the ethnicity and intelligence debate (often measured as average IQ; an imperfect measure but the best we've got), and if genetics plays a role in the observed discrepancies beyond environmental and cultural factors. Of course, racists will latch onto the skin colour aspect, but in reality it's not "Black vs White" and more aptly "this group vs that group", i.e. Norwegians vs Italians, or equally Norwegians vs Congolese, or even this village vs that village etc. Anyway, despite ~40000 years of the "main" groups of humans having effectively no genetic contact, and even differing amounts of Neanderthal and Denisovan admixture, the very suggestion that different groups of humans could have evolved even slightly different wiring in their brains is deemed impossible because it's offensive, moreover unevenly distributed breeding with other hominids didn't have any effect whatsoever because anything offensive must necessarily be untrue. Plus, our physical appearance, strength and health could evolve to suit our environments, but there's no way our brain could evolve differently in different environments because that would be offensive. Yep, evolution just stopped for our species because nature or God (whichever you prefer) didn't want to offend anyone. It's foolish, if you ask me. I certainly don't support discrimination and especially hate against anyone, but the truth is the truth and we didn't choose it. It's already well known in the physiological and related fields, but genetics hasn't found it yet. When/if they do... get ready for a big uproar. Some would say this science may be true but it's so hurtful that the stone should be left unturned. I see their point, but it does have implications for quotas in society.
edit for small addition and link (please read it before downvoting me for writing something offensive)https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/23/opinion/sunday/genetics-race.html
Mandovai • 11h
Nature is extremely sensitive to equity among genders, that's why it made the male of some fish species to be basically a sack of sperm that lives attacked to the female womb.
God forbid thinking that the same mechanism has allowed humans with different biological sex to have a difference in wiring of the brain that is so slight that it manifests itself only in an imbalance in aptitude on some very specific tasks/disciplines.
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nomad1c • 1d
there is no actual controversy in the field itself, the evidence is overwhelming. the outrage is purely political. science has been compromisedCrosspost: dreamwidth.org